The focus, though, is behind the head, and so is why the dog appears soft. It was in a film class I took a few years ago. This means, that for your 70-200mm f/2.8, you would ideally, at 200mm, want a shutter speed of 1/320 on a 1.6 crop factor body. (permalink), I now only shoot in A, S, and P (7D doesn't have action lol) It's hard to figure out the right shutter speeds to use in these type of shots because I can't meter as the shots spontaneous.... Is there a cheat somewhere? (It does do wonders for shaky hands, though.) I own a 70-200mm f/2.8 IS, and wouldn't trade it for anything. my point is: f2,8 is the better choice imho... why would you not bring the best you have if going somewhere? Originally posted ages ago. Originally posted ages ago. I have one and I love mine. Use Flickriver Badge Creator to create a badge linking to your photos, your group or any other Flickriver view. Canon 70-200 f2.8 L IS USM Lens Review.The f/2.8 vs. F/4.0 vs. other cheaper alternatives Non-technical lens evaluation to help you decide what the best lens is for you to purchase. I checked some of your photos and the night one at 6400 ISO have too much grain (IMO), but the ones at 800 are real nice. I'm going to try that, I will adjust if necessary. I see a big difference in sharpness but I feel the color and the contrast of the older version Was slightly better.Am I right or wrong? :-( Though solidly built, the 70-200 f/4L is relatively light (25 oz / 705g). Is this lens a good one. Install search plugin. When traveling I don't bring my 70-200 f2.8, i bring the 24-105 and a 50mm f1.4....If I ever do a safari, well that would be different. Thanks for the replies! @ tobias I still think you would have got the shots with an f4 IS lens, the IS would have sorted out your handshake and you could have dropped the shutter speed by 0.5 stop to get a similar result. Canons excellent f/4 Zoom lenses is the reason I have stayed with Canon and not switched to Nikon as my mind keeps telling me (mainly due to the far superior AF on the lower spec non pro bodies) ages ago ... i have had my 70-200 f2.8 non-IS for a long time and still like it a lot! hello my friends, i have a situation that i cant decide which lens should i get, i have 70-200 F4 non is for now and i have a canon 60D body ages ago I'm blown away by it's possibilities. Secondly, you can invest in a monopod or start using your tripod more. I would certainly suggest renting/borrowing/ trying the 70-200mm f4 IS before making the switch. (permalink) im debating which one to get myself plus the size and weight difference between the two is obvious and could be an issue when traveling abroad. This is the least expensive: the f/4 without stabilization. Discussion in 'Lens Matters' started by geoid, Jul 13, 2010. Pablo Avanzini 2,738 views. (permalink). (permalink). When I shoot night games, I shoot manual (or sometimes Av depending on the field and weather) and set my ISO up to 6400 on my 50d. the downside is that it's heavy...Oh well Is it me or have Canon dropped the ball on pricing. (permalink), Hi Everyone, The IS is a good thing to have because it can save a lot of actuations in low light situations. Long story short, your shot is very sharp, but the face is not in the focal plane as your depth of field is too shallow. (permalink). i'd say IS is very very important especially for the f2.8 Mark S Payne edited this topic ages ago. In this case, I would've stopped down to give yourself greater depth of field and cranked up your ISO to keep your shutter speed up. Sign up for a free account, or sign in (if you're already a member). I soot wildlife and when outdoors I use a 1.4 extender. because its the best place to store images instead of buying 100 CF cards and because i shoot in raw, i need to PP them if i want to print some out while abroad. Canon 70-200mm f/4 L USM (NON IS) A group for the users of this amazing lens, show some photos of how great it is and how you use it. Black background (preview): Adds a 'Flickriver' button to your browser. The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L USM Lens is arguably Canon's best value "L" Lens, combining professional grade build and optical qualities.. the diopter wheel adjustment from my EOS 750d is stuck. Also with the 7D I find I can turn up the iso an extra stop anyway. ages ago This is the lens to get for daylight use where you want the lightest, least expensive tele zoom yet still want a fast and excellent lens. (permalink), I chose the f4 IS mainly due to the size/weight. You won't get fast enough shutter speed to stop action. If you feel like you don't need that extra stop of light (if you shoot in daylight around f/8 or so anyway), and would like the IS, the f/4 IS isn't a bad choice. Go to bed dude! I also use it for macro work periodically with the extension tubes, and it always amazes me quality-wise. So, my suggestion would be to stay with the 2.8, or move to the 2.8 IS when you can afford it. E Martin Photo Yeah the f/4L lenses are Canons holy grail. ages ago They are recessed and unlikely to get knocked, although pros often jam in toothpicks and tape them over to be sure. Canon 70-200mm f/4 L IS side view on a Rebel XTi . ages ago 8:11PM, 24 February 2010 PST Canon 70-200mm f/4 L USM (NON IS) recent | interesting | random. exclusive spark edited this topic ages ago. Originally posted ages ago. If you need a little more/little less light, then you can always adjust your exposure bias up or down respectively. canon 70-200 F4 non IS vs 85mm F1.8 vs 50mm F1.4. ages ago (permalink), To All: Originally posted ages ago. Now the bokeh of the F2.8 is a lot better but I'm not saying the bokeh of the F4.0 is bad either. If it was between the 4 IS and 2.8 non-IS, I think I'd still go for the 4. E Martin Photo: Ok.. this makes sense. Your 7D can perform very well at ISO 800, so don't be afraid to push it. I leave my aperture set at a reasonable value (around f/4), ISO on AUTO, and if I something happens that I'm not prepared for, at least I have a reasonable chance of getting it. I know it's not the only way to do it either, but this works for me. You'll lose a stop of light, and IS simply won't freeze action. (permalink) I also notice the one i believe to be "sharper" are at 1/800 - 1/100...I think I really need to crank up my shutter speeds in general (when shooting action). (Please leave the EXIF data in tact if possible, but this is not required.) Thanks for the tip But since purchasing a FF 5D2 i wanted to test for myself if this still holds true on the FF. And now onto the next released lens: the Canon RF 70-200mm f/4 L. The RF version of this lens holds many upgrades from the EF version, and holds the high-quality imagery that you’d expect from an L series lens. why carry a laptop? Manual mode does get use on my camera -- it did this Christmas, when the flash was attached. You can set the shutter speed to something high enough to freeze the action (1/500 or faster - depending on what you're shooting), set your ISO to AUTO, and let the camera do the rest. Flickr is almost certainly the best online photo management and sharing application in the world. (permalink), With heavier lenses, you get used to it. ages ago Right now, I'm using my 5D MKII with Canon 85 1.8 + 70-200 F4 (Non IS) for the outdoor pictures. (permalink), Im pretty sure the F2.8 none IS is cheaper than the F4 IS? Take your choice of f/4 or f/2.8 and with or without image stabilization. Canon 70-200 F4 non IS. If you click it, you'll go home. I would think that for indoor sports you'd probably want to use S/Tv mode. (permalink), @tobias, Unless traveling in business/first class, your limited to the amount of weight u can carry with u as hand carry unless you dont mind putting some of your camera stuff in your luggage. You can shift these up or down as you see fit, but you are smarter than your camera is... One of those shots is almost certainly in focus. I like the blur (bokeh) look on the action shots, if I had the IS and shot that the exact same way do you think it would be sharper? (Yet) I personally have the f/4 Non-IS lens and it is amazing. Has anyone used both? It made for very consistent images, which was very nice. Canon EOS-1D X Mark III Canon EF 10mm f/2.8L USM Canon EF 400mm f/2.8L IS III USM Canon EF 600mm f/4L IS III USM Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS USM Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS III USM Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II USM This certainly isn't the only way to go about it, but it works for me. To install: drag and drop the following link to your Bookmarks toolbar. The Canon 70-200mm f/4 L IS is one of those lenses that just works and delivers great images without getting in your way. (permalink). I've found one 2nd hand which isn't too dear. From the info I have got from the net 1/8 second shutter speed at 200mm is quite obtainable on the 70-200mmm f4L IS USM for stationary subjects. Adding an EF 1.4x II only results is a slight loss of quality which is remarkable for such a slow speed zoom. jonneymendoza edited this topic ages ago. Or, I'll use it to focus bracket a little -- AF once, shoot, manually focus a little, shoot, focus some more, shoot, etc. Mark S Payne edited this topic ages ago. Mark S Payne edited this topic ages ago. As to your shot, it's very sharp, and to capture water in mid-air indicates a shutter speed fast enough to freeze a good part of the action. I metered a couple times, and then figured out a good setting, dialed it in, and then didn't have to worry about metering again. ages ago i would have hated being there and hot being able to get the picture... I was looking at the image on my iPhone so could not look at the deail of the shot. ages ago Personally, I live in A/Av mode, even for spontaneous shots. Today it is no … Lol I am in bed, not that it's doing any good lol. It would depend on if your subject was stationary. (permalink), Photo Kandy: Thanks for that... I have the F4L IS and absolutely love it - I've been doing a lot of low-light photography lately and have wished I had the 2.8, but theres no way I would give up IS. But does anyone know how much better the one with IS ( the new one) is? over in the UK, both IS versions of f4/f2.8 have a price difference of £400!! A Greasemonkey script that adds Flickriver links to various Flickr photo pages - user photos, favorites, pools etc, allowing to quickly open the corresponding Flickriver view. IMG_5282 by geraldtourniaire. ages ago The reviews suggest so. SAZB612DAMAX: Originally posted ages ago. I have been using it a lot to supplement the 300mm f/2.8 IS when I'm out and something is too close for 300mm. Firstly, you can begin using a flash to help bring more light to your scene and thereby increasing your shutter speed. my only issue is how do u guys carry such 1.5kg when traveling abroad when your only allowed 7kg of hand carry lmao. Av still lets the camera meter (it chooses the shutter speed, you choose the ISO (unless you're on auto ISO), and your aperture setting). I understand that the IS won't help in freezing the pictures but I don't really use a tripod when I'm out and about shooting... so the IS would be nice. When you're at apertures as wide as 2.8 (or more), and with a moving subject, that can be really hard to do with such a narrow depth-of-field. Camerahoarders 11,881 views. You'll graually figure out different combinations to start from based on different scenarios, and will be able to quickly adapt after shooting a few "practice" shots. (permalink), I agree with Stratman if you want a proper upgrade the new 70-200mm f2.8 IS would be what I would look to own (though I would wait for its price to drop from release) since the overall improvements will benefit you more - a closer focsuing distance means its slightly better at some closeup shots when out and about (flowers and other natury type things) whilst its sharpness improvements means better overall performance when you put the 1.4TC on - I'd even be interested to see how well the new would take a 2*TC. (permalink) IE users - add the link to your Favorites under the Links folder, preview: 'Canon 70-200mm f/4 L USM (NON IS)' most interesting group photos on Flickriver, Use Flickriver Badge Creator to create a badge linking to any Flickriver view. A f/4 70-200 would be a great lens to get into the Canon R but it is disappointing that'll mean no TC support. One of the reasons is because would be able to shoot in faster shutter speed. Pelicans Flying-Canon 550D w/Canon 70-200 f4 non-IS Test. IMHO. (permalink) Discussion in 'Canon EOS' started by ramezkaradsheh, Mar 4, 2020. ramezkaradsheh. (permalink), Kidding? (permalink). So u want to let me know who the heck can afford those new Canon RF lenses? I personally only ever shoot in Aperture priority or total manual.Far more control over variables. EXIF data is much appreciated. You can place your badge on your Flickr profile, Blog or Website. For people and animals, you have to nail the focus on the eyes, otherwise it doesn't look right. If you look at the dog's paws, they are sharper than the face. SHEESH! ages ago (permalink), I have to agree that all the comments so far seem dead on. Actually, this looks out of focus. The 70-200mm f4 IS is sharper at f4 than the 70-200mm f2.8 but its really picking at hairs rather than a night and day difference - further the f2.8 are way better at f2.8 than the f4 is ;) ages ago Ken Zirkel says: IMHO the extra stop of the 2.8 is much better than the f/4 IS. I hear that the 70-200 f4 is super sharp versus the 2.8 non IS, don't know if that's true. I'm thinking of replacing my 70-200 F4 with used but excellent condition 70-200 F2.8 (Both NON IS) by adding 200 $ extra. Another tip, a bit off-topic, but you might also try moving your focus button to the * on the back. S/Tv = Shutter Priority: You choose the shutter speed, and the camera selects the ISO / Aperture value that can obtain the shutter speed. I purchased that lens almost six years ago to use with my 20D, and have had exceptional results with it so far. (permalink) (permalink), Yes the f4 is about £100 cheaper here in UK. Test set up. I occasionally get photos that have the same problem while shooting with a f2.8 lens. ... , I am a stock photographer and an owner of 5d mk iii I have; 70-200 f4 ... fixed condition 91 months ago 5 replies. ages ago INTRODUCTION. (permalink) Like someone above me said, try hand holding a f2.8 lens with a slowish shutter speed and see the blur thats produced in your shots. Simply a group to show the cabilities of this amazing lens. ages ago ages ago I think you should stick with your 70-200mm f/2.8. Would you have to shoot at a higher shutter on the non IS to get the same shot? People are forgetting that the F2.8 lens is 1.5kg of weight on its own. ages ago I misunderstood what you meant before. (permalink), Go for 2.8 non IS...believe me, you wont regret it... Canon currently makes four 70-200mm lenses. imho, we should be comparing the f2.8 none IS version to the F4 none IS version and vice versa. Flickriver widget for iGoogle or Netvibes can display almost any Flickriver view - most interesting today, by user, by group, by tag etc. I don't know about a 2.8 vs 4.0 now, the new RF 2.8 is quite light so I canny imagine people owning both a f/4.0 and f/2.8 like I know a few did on EF (The f/4… P.s.I use a crop camera, canon 7D That's been so much of a benefit to me - letting me get crystal clear pictures even at slower shutter speeds [assuming the target isn't moving]. The IQ of the f4 IS is better in some reviews but if you have the f2.8 I would stick with it unless you do not use f2.8. Seeking your advice...................... For how long does canon service their discontinued cameras? I could buy a second hand 300mm f/2.8 IS USM for that! But like these guys/gals said...... IS makes NO difference when trying to stop action. I guess that is my real question that I should have started the thread with ;) CkLoVeSaRt edited this topic ages ago. (permalink), Yeah but in the UK they are selling this lens at £2800 which is over $4200 which is just ridiculous. ages ago Unless depth of field is absolutely critical for your indoor shooting, you would certainly be better off with the f2.8 lens over the f4. Originally posted ages ago. (permalink), f/4 lenses are so incredibly useful for a lot of people, and the 70-200mm f/4 IS is an absolutely killer lens. I primarily shoot in Av as I prefer to control the depth of field more than anything and just keep an eye on the shutter speed that is displayed in viewfinder and adjust accordingly. Also, it is much easier to control for these things if you are shooting in Tv, Av, or M as opposed to Action as you can then set everything yourself and get exactly what you want. The Function of Technology on Obsolescence, EOS 750 Diopter adjustment wheel is stuck / Viewfinder. When indoors (i.e shooting a gymnastic competition) i don't use the 1.4 converter. exclusive spark edited this topic ages ago. Canon 70-200 L f4 non IS Vs Canon 70_200L f4 IS Nov 22, 2017 1 Recently sold my Canon 70-200 L f4 non IS and purchased the f4 IS version. IE users - add the link to your Favorites under the Links folder, Jessica (14) - Châteauroux les Alpes - Juin 2020, 'Canon 70-200mm f/4 L USM (NON IS)' most interesting group photos on Flickriver. Please use discretion as this is a public forum. ages ago brekmoxx 101 months ago 1 replies. Ya that's what I meant! ages ago Losing that stop of light especailly when you do a lot of low light and teleconverter work will be noticable when you have to push for those wide open apertures. Crying Fowl by hasneyhassan. Well, I do a lot of bird action photography, and the technique I use that I find to be very useful is to shoot in Av, center point only (unless you're already setup and ready to shoot a particular composition and know your subject will be off center), al servo focus, keep the shutter speed at least 1/1000 (check it in the viewfinder), set your aperture so that your depth of field is reasonably large (gives you whoopsy room and room for your subject to fit in the entire focal plane - I usually keep my aperture at f/7.1 to f/11 unless I'm forced to open it up due to poor/low light), and crank your ISO to 400 or higher. A/Av = Aperture Priority: You choose aperture (think DOF), and the camera selects ISO / Shutter Speed. How to find the megapixel usability of a lens. ages ago While weather sealing is a nice feature, it should not be a game changer or a deal breaker. I'm sure there are several gasps from folks about that, but if you look at the published photos I have on my profile, I find that the grain isn't as bad as some might think. The Canon 70-200mm f/4 L IS has a lot of slide switches. and at what aperture/shutter... Where are the cheats!!!!! #nosmallcreator #teamcanon #lensreviewThis lens is a BEAST, and if you can handle the few quirks, it can yield some AMAZING results. Originally posted ages ago. Canon EOS 80D Canon EOS 5D Mark III Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Canon EF 16-35mm F4L IS USM Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM +4 more. It says in your EXIF you are shooting in Action mode. ages ago Currently the f2.8 70-200mm don't really do a fantastic job of it and I think the nikon equivalent gives a better overall performance in that regard (from what I have seen). exclusive spark edited this topic ages ago. I was at a wedding in india the other day, and they performed some very cool bollywood dancing, and to capture that i needed to be @f2,8 and ISO 1600 (my 450D doesnt go any higher) and to eliminate the handshake use a monopod... - couldnt have done that with an f4 lens You really only have a couple options in this case: make sure you get the eyes in focus when using a large aperture, or use a larger aperture (which may have increased any motion blur from the dog...) for most other work the 300mm f/4 L IS USM is far more useful for me. Photos taken with the Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II USM lens. Originally posted ages ago. Originally posted ages ago. M = Manual: You do everything: Aperture, Shutter Speed, ISO. The Canon EF 70-200 f4 L IS is both a highly-regarded and successful telephoto zoom lens which was first introduced late in 2006. www.flickr.com/photos/cklovesart/3977618648/meta/in/set-7... Note that unless you've set your ISO to AUTO, the camera will respect your set ISO in all cases. A lot just depends on shooting conditions. Feel... Flickr logo. HOWEVER, if you are asking about handshake blur, then the general rule of thumb is that for a non-stabilized lens, you should keep your shutter speed a 1/apparent (35mm) focal length or faster. Please post your photos shot with Canon 70-200 f2.8 L IS II USM here. For some people, the lack of weather sealing is a deal breaker, but for the majority of consumers it should not be. Don't forget that your 1.4 extender will make your f/4 into an f/5.6. That would need to be obtained by doubling the shutter speed. exclusive spark edited this topic ages ago. (permalink). (permalink), Don't even think about shooting your indoors gymnastics with an F/4. I love flick!!! i also carry my laptop too! The new 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II USM seems to be the winner here. (permalink) Jul 13, 2010 #1. geoid Well-Known Member. i dont get much photo opportunity when im at home in east london. If you don't need the subject-action-stopping and background-blurring capabilities of the faster Canon EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS Lens, this lens will deliver everything else you need in a smaller, lighter and less-expensive package. If I could spend another $500 now and upgrade to the 2.8 IS, I'd totally do it. Hbie edited this topic ages ago. ages ago Canon RF 70-200mm F4 L IS USM Pre-Order Now. Nikon don't offer this option. Oh I hate insomnia... 4.20am local time here... Canon 70-200mm f/4 L USM (NON IS) A group for the users of this amazing lens, show some photos of how great it is and how you use it. Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L USM Real World Sample Images - Duration: 3:15. i have a lowepro fastrack 350 bag that can take it all ie a camera, a few lens and a laptop. Convenience is a major consideration when shooting, and the RF70-200mm F4 L IS USM lens is our most compact and lightest 70-200mm f/4 lens, making it even more appealing to use for your photo and video opportunities. (permalink). You have a full extra stop of light than you would lose if you switched. ages ago I have the non-IS 70-200mm f/4L but only use it in good light or when I have a tripod with me. Usually your camera will aim for a shutter speed 1/focal-length, but if it can't do it, it'll go slower. Actually it is very light and small compared to the much more substantial Canon EF 70-200 f/2.8L Lens or the Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Lens. And to maybe talk about the different ways to use it; eg, portrait, landscape, etc. Image Stabilization, in and of itself, while convenient, is not a "must have" feature. The photos certainly do print extremely well - even when they are half-toned and printed on newsprint. The 300mm f/4L IS USM can be handheld at 1/125 second or lower (on 1.6 crop sensor) and get sharp photos( if the subject remains still at the moment of capture) ages ago I have been using Canon EOS rebel t5 for the last 6 years for fun, I d... What music are you all listening to while out & about trying to get all those am... Just got an 5d mk III. Oh I understand! No selling lens posts. Thank goodness, after 12 years Nikon has finally re-introduced a reasonably-sized telephoto zoom for FX digital, DX digital and 35mm cameras.. Originally posted ages ago. 70-200 f/4L(non-is) outdoors is sharp, zero CA, much lighter(it definitely is a factor, the f/4 is also narrower at the base which for me at least makes it easier to grip, my hands are small haha).